The pendulum has not swung too far in the other direction, yet.Īs to the substance of the summit itself, few surprises, save for Mr Obama’s remarkable comment on ‘his pay grade’. Let those who cry doomsday rejoice that there is hope yet to turn America into a Christian nation. That both candidates could accept a forum in a church and that it be that well received in American public opinion gives room for hope. What we need is the kind of fair, open discussion Mr Warren hosted. Politics and religion have always made strange bedfellows, as I commented in a previous post. Surely it must be an abuse of ecclesiastical authority that influence gained in the kingdom be employed for partisan politicking. As it is to the calls of the other group seeking to get Obama elected. His approach is certainly preferable to that of the 70 odd Christian leaders who called for a vote for McCain in a desperate bid to have a ‘Christian’ president. I for one salute his courage, if it had turned out badly, his critics would have had a field day. Those who previously looked at him askance sportingly admit that he did rather well, and grudgingly concede that he might indeed turn out to be the right kind of evangelical voice in an American political life soured by the Christian right and assiduously courted by worrisome emergent strains. One of the interesting outcomes of the McCain / Obama ‘debate’ is the new respect Rick Warren has gained. Il vous permettra de comprendre ma position sur l’implication de l’église en politique et sert de toile de fond au prochain article. Unlike like many opponents of same sex marriage, though, Warren doesn't see it as a danger to heterosexual married couples.Pour ceux de nos amis francophones qui s’intéressent à la politique outre-atlantique, voici un article que j’avais posté sur le blog anglais. The laws about eating fish and stuff, those are civil and ceremonial laws for Israel. And there is moral law, which is for everybody. There's ceremonial law, which is for the Jewish priesthood. There's civil law, which is for the nation of Israel. Rick Warren: The people that make that argument don't understand there are three kind kinds of law in the Bible that are very different. for eating fish without fins and getting a tattoo. Leviticus speaks of homosexuality as being a sin, but also. In fact the Bible says that King Solomon had 700 wives. What if it's between a brother and a sister?Īnn Cury: You said that God says in the Bible that a man and a woman should cling to each other for life, but it does not say that a marriage is only between a man and a woman. I'm against redefining marriage historically 5,000 years. Now I'm in favor of human rights for everybody.everybody. Rick Warren: God said in Genesis 1, a man and woman should cling to each other for life. Warren says his opposition to same sex marriage is shared by a majority of Americans and by President-elect Obama - and is based on Biblical teachings. I think it's part of delayed gratification. And why should I reign in my natural impulses and you say, "Well, because I have natural impulses towards the same sex, I shouldn't have to reign them in." Well, I disagree. But that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. I'm naturally inclined to have sex with every beautiful woman I see. I've had many gay friends tell me, "Well, Rick, why shouldn't I have multiple sexual partners? It's the natural thing to do." Well, just because it seems natural doesn't mean it's best for you or society. I struggle with being shy."Īnn Curry: You're saying if it's part of your biology, it's your job to struggle against it if, in fact, it's the wrong. And other people say, "I don't struggle with anger, but I sure struggle with fear." Some people say, "Oh, I don't struggle with this. If it's biological, we'll be glad to know. The reason why is because it doesn't matter to me. Rick Warren: I'd be happy to tell you why.
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